Bangkok: Me luv you not so long time
This is my 5th time in Bangkok, the 2nd time for Lissette. I’ve previously written about Bangkok and how it is a city that grows on you. With a fresh – and different – perspective I don’t know if that is accurate. In fact the opposite might be true.
I had a great time when I passed through here in 2003. I was single, horny, and at a different stage in my life. Days were spent exploring the city’s highlights, nights were about drinking and girlie bars. Bangkok was the craziest, most exciting city I had ever visited.
I met Lissette back in 2005. In 2008 we passed through Bangkok on our travels through Thailand and Laos. We did a lot of the tourist stuff and I still found Bangkok exciting. The temples, taking the ferry down the river, the frenetic pulse of the city. Lissette found the city dirty though and was pretty happy when we left after 3 days.
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Now that we are spending more time everywhere we go (we’re now retired full-time ‘slow’ travellers), we experience things from a new perspective. Our apartment (which we booked through Airbnb) is close to Sathorn Road in the center of town. You would think that this area, with all its embassies and the financial district nearby, would be pretty refined. It is and it isn’t. You’ll see huge condo buildings (like ours) with rooftop swimming pools and gyms. Hotels rise up 60+ stories and contain popular bars and restaurants where the beautiful people go. The Skytrain is ultra modern and rides up over the city. You’ll see huge digital billboards on the walls of buildings advertising soft drinks, cars, and skin whitening creams (I’ll get to that below). Especially seen from above, Bangkok appears incredibly futuristic. But get in close and walk the streets and you’ll see broken sidewalks, hanging electrical wires, and you’ll have to make your way through millions of little shopping stalls, multitudes of people, as well as a sprinkling of street dogs, cats, and beggars lying or sleeping on the sidewalk. Keep your eyes on the ground and towards the gutter and it won’t be long before you see a cockroach or a rat. Bangkok is not made for walking; sidewalks are an afterthought and seem to serve primarily as a spot to park motorcycles or put up some kind of hawker stand. Crossing any street is a time-consuming nightmare because turning cars have priority and you’ll often find yourself waiting for a break in the traffic along with locals and stray dogs (there is something to be said about survival of the fittest in Bangkok). And then you get to a major street, which requires you to walk up the stairs of an overpass to cross to the other side. If the streets and sidewalks are not bad enough, you have the endless concrete of buildings, roads, and the skytrain overpass along Silom and Sukhumvit roads. Add to that the exhaust fumes from 4 lanes of cars, trucks, tuk tuks and motorcycles. I’ve heard people say that the smog in Bangkok is comparable to a tire dump on fire. It’s an exaggeration but not that far from the truth. Add to all that the smell of raw sewage emanating from the manhole covers and the putrid stink from some of Bangkok’s canals.
All to say that Bangkok is an assault to every sense in the human body. We don’t know how people can live here every day, especially the poor. You seem them pushing food carts, cooking food over huge vats of boiling oil, and going home to squalid slums. Somehow, through it all, they smile at you. Ordinary Thais (ie those not in the tourism business or those not looking to scam tourists) are still the among the friendliest people we’ve met.
Our thoughts on visiting Bangkok? It’s funny how impressions on a place vary according to where you are in life. If you’re single and coming to party it’s definitely a fun place. As a couple it is a lot less interesting. Don’t get us wrong, Bangkok is worth a visit if you’ve never been. But 2-3 days will suffice to see the highlights. You’ll be ready to move on after – we’ve been here 3 weeks and have both been getting increasingly irritable. One more week and we’d be heading towards divorce court. So, as the title of this post suggests, make Bangkok a quickie and not a long term relationship.
Observations, thoughts, tips
– Tuk-tuks. Take it once for the novelty of it. It’s fun. But otherwise avoid them: they’re dangerous, overpriced, and you’ll usually always be hassled for a tour.
– Taxis. I’ve visited Bangkok a few times and it’s getting harder and harder to find a taxi driver who wants to turn on the meter. They only want to deal with tourists that agree to a (high) fixed price. I’ve found it shocking to have taxi drivers basically just say “no”. Note: taxis in Bangkok are required by law to use a meter and if people are settling for a fixed rate they’re just making it bad for everyone else.
– Gems. One of the most popular posts on this blog is the one I wrote detailing how I got scammed back in 2002. It’s still going strong, witnessed by both the comments I receive and offers I still get walking down a street in Bangkok. Don’t ever get fooled by someone (usually a tuk-tuk driver) who; a) tells you that a temple is closed b) offers to take you for a ride somewhere else.
– Women. People always complain about the ‘dirty old men’ who come to Thailand and who hook up with Thai women. Many of these men end up losing their life savings to these women who, for the most part, are anything but ‘poor victims’. I wrote about it here.
Everything in Bangkok is organized to separate the tourist from his money. Even little things like taking the ferry down the river. Get off at Saphan Taksin pier and you’ll see the ‘ticket counter’ for the ferry. They’ll ask for 50 baht to take you down the river. Note that this is not the ferry that locals take down the river – those cost 15 baht. The one they’re trying to sell you is the Tourist Boat. For the record, the tourist boat has blue flags and you pre-pay, the local ferry has orange flags and you pay when you get on the boat (they pass every 20 minutes). While we were down by the pier a Thai man started talking to us, asking where we were from. Of course he had family in Canada (sic). He cut the conversation short when we told him that we had been to Thailand many times before. Don’t know what his game was but he had one. One thing I’ve learned in Bangkok; everyone is hurrying you, pressuring you to get on that boat, take a tu-tuk etc…don’t. It’s probably a scam. After many experiences here we know not to rush into anything.
The Skytrain, or ‘BTS’ as people call it is a great way to get around the city and people should organize their stays around it. A bit strange though; you go to the counter to tell them where you want to go and they won’t give you a ticket – they’ll tell you how much it costs, give you change, and direct you to the ticket machines. The cost varies by the number of stations you go.
What to do in Bangkok? Make sure to read the post below 🙂
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“Bangkok is an attack on all of the senses.” That’s the truth! I warned my friend before visiting… Hot, loud, dirty, polluted, stinks, but great fun! I’ve been here a year and there are moments where I want to push a crowd of people out of my way while walking down Sukhumvit… But it’s still a fun city. However, I’m in that “young, single, horny category. Cheers!
Frank (bbqboy)
Thanks for the comment skins. Know where you’re coming from, been there – and totally agree!
Nigel
I haven’t read all of your site yet but will attempt to. Yes, Bangkok is an interesting place but like anything you get used to it. I know that I did during my 12 years living and working in Bangkok. It is a place that definitely isn’t for anyone. Thailand is fun and an interesting country. However, Bangkok isn’t Thailand just like New York City and Las Vegas aren’t the USA. Chiang Mai is nice but I much prefer Chiang Rai.
As for Nivea, well…..they are an international company out to sell their product. One item that sells well is skin whitener. As much as we think that is weird so do the Thais, and many other Asians, think tanning beds are weird. I mean, who in their right mind would want their skin darker?? It’s all in the perspective I guess. Oh, and I’ve known the country manager for Nivea in Thailand for over 25 years.
Cheers!
Frank (bbqboy)
Thanks for your input Nigel. We met some expats who are very happy in Bangkok. But it definitely isn’t for us for anything more than a short visit. But as you say, some people chose to live in Las Vegas. There’s a place for everyone. But interesting what you say about Chiang Mai because it’s on everyone’s list as ‘the’ place to go, either to retire or as an expat. Countless bloggers located there because its cheap, and I know a few retirees as well. My mom has been there about 10 years but has tired of it, complaining that its gotten too crowded with too much traffic and pollution. I know very little about Chiang Rai but have been curious about it…
Our next stop will actually be Nong Khai which I hope will suit us well – we’re not really fond of big cities. We generally prefer small towns and nature.
I’m sure Nivea raking in the big bucks on the Thai get-white craze! I just find it sad when races, whatever race, feels the need to appear paler. Its a fact everywhere you go in developing countries that the paler skinned people get the better jobs. Go to the Dominican Republic and all hotel staff are the lighter-skinned Dominicans. I guess they’ve figured out that guests feel more comfortable being served by someone paler. But how sad a commentary is that? I’m not blaming anyone, it’s the way of the world and won’t change anytime soon. And companies like Nivea are just responding to that. But like I say, just find it a sad state of affairs…
Thanks for taking the time to comment!
travelFREAK
Great post, Frank! You’re honest and that’s what matters most! Thailand is fun and interesting, but Bangkok is so different from other parts of the country!