Changing my mind about San Miguel de Allende
A couple of years ago I visited San Miguel de Allende. I wrote a post on my visit at the time, saying that it was a pretty place, that it was well equipped as a Western retirement spot, but that I had found San Miguel de Allende overrated and overly βgringorizedβ. A few people werenβt happy with me saying that.
Coming back recently to visit my mother I have to admit I really loved my time there. What changed? A couple of things, most not really not having to do with San Miguel itself.
After a year of full-time travel, coming to San Miguel to visit my mom was a break. Itβs a pretty place, has great restaurants, and, as Iβve said before, a great infrastructure for the expat. It was easy and fun and is definitely not a difficult destination. I think I called San Miguel βMexico-liteβ somewhere. I stand by that. The difference this time is thatβs exactly what I needed. So the real difference to me really enjoying San Miguel was my perspective.
The other thing that changed was the time of year I visited. When I visited two years ago I came in March. Thatβs when all the expats are in San Miguel escaping winter in the Northern Hemisphere. This time I came in July. I saw less expats, less Western tourists, and more locals as well as Mexican tourists (who come here to escape the heat in other parts of Mexico). It didnβt feel overly gringorized.
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When you take away over-gringorization thereβs not much that you canβt love about San Miguel. Colourful streets, beautiful monuments and churches, friendly locals, fantastic food (I always love coming back to Mexico for the food), and great weather. San Miguel is always cool in the shade, never humid (owing to its altitude). And the Western-effect does have its benefits: youβll find all the things you would at home. Except cheaper. My mom has an organic store/restaurant right across the street. A block down thereβs a gym where expats do aerobics every morning to the beat of Latin (not Mexican) pop. San Miguel has a world class library with books in English, French and Germany (and probably more languages). You can attend concerts, take classes of any kind, or become a painter like every 2nd expat who seems to settle there. Itβs a place that seems to inspire people.
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I think every expat Iβve spoken to seems to have a love/hate relationship with San Miguel. They love everything listed above. But at some point they get fed up with all the other Westerners who show up for the same things. Then they talk about moving somewhere else in Mexico, somewhere a little less βdiscoveredβ. But itβs usually just talk, because despite the downside there are so many great things about living in San Miguel.
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I spent a week in San Miguel exploring the markets, walking the hills around town, seeing the botanical gardens (worth a visit), and drinking margaritas with my mom. And I loved it. San Miguel de Allende has won me over. For now.
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Practical Information:
– Bus. San Miguel de Allende is about 5 Β½ hours by bus from Mexico City. You can take the bus from the Mexico City airport direct to Queretaro (about 3 Β½ hours by Primera Plus bus lines). From there you can take a bus to San Miguel which takes about 1 Β½ hours. I’ve written about it before – buses in Mexico are excellent, the best I’ve seen anywhere. Taking Primera Plus or ETN is transportation luxury at its best.
– Accommodation. The best online booking site for hotels is Booking.com. San Miguel can be quite expensive due to it’s popularity. A few recommendations: the Rosewood is one of Mexico’s best hotels and has a rooftop bar with great views and fantastic cocktails. Hotel El Palomar is equally fantastic (and the views even better).
Related: On Travel to Mexico β why Iβm sick of the ignorance
Related: 10 things to See and Do in San Miguel de Allende. And the Best of the Best
Related: A roadtrip through Mexicoβs most beautiful towns and cities
Ever been to San Miguel de Allende? What do you think of it?
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I moved from the US as a single retired woman four years ago, to Ajijic Mexico. The first two years were great, no major issues or problems. However, I have found the last two years to be a nightmare as far a housing goes. I do not want nor plan to purchase a home. I rent. Now to find a newer or well maintained older home/apartment, the prices have more than doubled. I just checked a block from me a new building with two smallish bedroom units and the price is $25,000 pesos which includes no utilities. Do then now think this is Manhattan? I feel even sorrier for the local folks, many who have had to move their families in with relatives while both spouses working two jobs. The landlords, locals or gringos have now adopted the attitude, you don’t like it; move. You find out after the first rain, a few days after moving in defects that were hidden and covered up and they tell you too bad. They have collected three months rent, 1st, last and security deposit so it you move out they keep the money and move the next unsuspecting victim in. It has become what appears to be a scam. Then you move for your health, because I’m talking roofs that are shot and leaking. water all in the walls that you can’t see till the mold quickly starts growing on the interior walls, black water out of the faucets even for bathing you have to use purchased bottle water; then try to move. They black list you on all the sites. I don’t know if San Miguel, as I have been researching moving there is a better option or this is how it has gotten in the more gringo areas of Mexico. Just an FYI to those who might be looking in this area and for any advice or a person someone may know in San Miguel for me to work with on finding a place and if these types of things are going on there also.
I’m sorry to hear your story Katheryn. I think it’s like everywhere, there are some bad landlords who take advantage and that’s always worse in places where expats retire. It’s not the case with my mom in San Miguel de Allende – she has a nice (older) place but none of the issues you state. Her landlord is a nice older man who seems more interested in continuity than in gouging tenants for every last cent. Always good to know someone or get advice from people on places.
Best of luck with your next apartment.
Thank you for your input! Appreciated. If you know of a place, please let me know. Stay well all!
Hi,
Do you know if in Ajijic they offer Spanish language classes?
Sorry, I don’t know anything about that.
My wife and I visited San Miguel in 2014 and instantly fell in love with it. We talk often about living there for a few months out of the year, and now that I’m retiring in a couple months, the talk is getting more serious.
I’d love to share some photos I took during our trip, but your commenting system won’t allow me to post a URL.
Cheers – Joe
Thanks Joe.
My mom lives in San Miguel and really likes it. There are a few things she’s not crazy about – principal among them the small sidewalks that make walking difficult. It would be great if they could have a couple of pedestrian-only streets in the downtown core.
But otherwise the weather great, people friendly and lots for her to do.
I’m planning to visit again in November, my 6th time there.
Hope you enjoy life in SMA!
Hope you make a good choice. It is getting really awful here. I had my bank card, bank in US, and they issued a new one. I had to wait almost a week and I’m in a locked gated place. My card came today and they didn’t ring my buzzer or call me as was on the instructions, and I found out an hour after it was delivered that a, “Jose”, signed for it and said he would give it to me. Just also found out my neighbor upstairs admitted to and was convicted of murder and bank fraud. Served 11 years and moved here, and opened a bitcoin institution attached to my small building. He also got was advertising himself as an attorney for expats and taking their money. Punishment here; none and he still has his place. I am in a place where there are only nine units and found out what is going on here. Terrible, but I’m stuck at the moment. The owner has a real operation running out of here and he knows I know so I have been harassed constantly. I was threatened and the police are around the corner. I went and filed a complaint also sent all to different agencies here in Mexico as well as US so if I disappear at least there would be some leads. That’s how bad it is. I hear there is much of this going on but people are afraid to speak up. They started harassing me the first week I was here and told me if I didn’t like it,…leave. Sure, after they took three months rent up front and your moving costs etc. I have no reason nor want to go back to the US. Lots of thinking to do. I hope anyone thinking about moving to the Lake Chapala area are very diligent when looking for a place. They hide the defects the kind that can and will make you sick, black water out of faucets or some days none, black mold growing on the interior walls, raining in your house with constant ceilings that don’t dry from roof leaks all over. Sad. I hope that San Miguel has more landlords that care about their properties. Good luck to both of us!
Amazing place with all the modern conveniences and the lovely weather that’s the reason why people would want to retire in San Miguel de Allende.
I spent 31 days in August 2016 in a rental apartment. I loved it. I loved the colors of San Miguel. I went in a hot air balloon ride. I travelled by bus to Guanajuato, QuerΓ©taro, and Delores Hildalgo. I went by taxi to La Cieneguita to see Chapel of Jimmy Ray art gallery. I visited Atotonilco and Mineral de Pozos. I am a hobby photography, and I loved taking pictures. I also went on three Tastes of San Miguel food tours which were delightful. I did it all and saw much more than some ex-pats that live in San Miguel. I am in San Miguel for 3 1/2 weeks in July 2017. I love it, but I do not believe I could ever live here. I just cannot stand the crowds of people and the primitive plumbing and the uber primitive sidewalks. It’s beautiful, but I would never move here from Arizona.
Mexico definitely the place for taking photos!
Agree with you especially on the sidewalks – I was in SMA just a month ago and was thinking exactly the same thing!
Sue, I Iived and taught English in Cuenca, Ecuador from Sept. 2015-Sept.2016. Cuenca is another U.N. World Heritage city.It’s 8,200 feet above sea level in the Andes Mountains. Very pretty, friendly people, cheaper than the U.S. and Canada, plus thousands of expats. I lived in the older and cheaper part of Cuenca–where the real Cuencanos live. I can relate to your comments, especially about the primitive sidewalks. (In Cuenca there were also crumbling buildings, dog pooh and male urine on the streets. I was told that Ecuadorian males are not considered to be “real men” unless they pee on the sidewalks.) But I did enjoy visiting friends in the new city with all of the conveniences for the many expats and wealthy Ecuadorians. One reason why I didn’t stay in Cuenca was that being a “Gringa” I got tired of being seen and treated as a walking cash machine. (There are ‘gringo prices’ and regular prices.) I actually had one taxi driver pull over and tell me to get out because I wouldn’t agree up front to overpay him. Has anyone had any experiences similar to these in San Miguel Allende?
Hi Carol. For my part, I haven’t heard any similar experiences from my mom who lives in San Miguel. In fact I don’t bother confirming the amount when I get in a cab to get downtown from the bus station – I know the price from having being countless times with my mom. Might be different though if a tourist arrives and asks for the price, I wouldn’t put it past any taxi driver in that situation to ask for more…
SM library is great! I was really supriced with that since it is in Mexico.
Agree, it’s fantastic.
We haven’t been but I’ve read a LOT of blog posts about the area and it’s definitely a place I’d like to visit. How does the local community blend – accept – ignore – feel about all of the expats?
I think the majority accept it well because it brings in employment opportunities. And Mexicans are very tolerant. But I’m sure there are some, especially those who don’t benefit directly, that don’t appreciate the influx of foreigners or the pressure it’s put on housing in the center.
Well, I am happy to hear you’ve changed your mind!
I grew up in Mexico and have traveled extensively in the country, and this is one of my favourite cities not only in Mexico, but in the world! I can see why your initial reaction initially would be a bit negative, and yes there are a lot of American expats living in the city, but the city is at its very core a typical Mexican city, which you can see in the market and when hanging out in the central garden.
And hey, having the conveniences of a modern city isn’t bad. I love the typical aspects of my country, but I also like being able to go to a modern rooftop bar for some sundowner cocktailsβ¦ There’s no harm in being able to have both cohabiting in one place!
Beautiful photos by the way, you did beautiful San Miguel justice π
Thanks for the comments Claus π
I’m glad you experienced San Miguel in a different season than last time. Not just for your sake, but ours… Note to self: Visit during the Summer π
It doesn’t get overly crowded – but the balance just shifts enough to lose a bit of its Mexican flavour. In my opinion at least π
Have yet to make it to San Miguel de Allende. Your photos are stunning! Even though it just won you over, your photos make me want to have a ‘closer look’ and visit myself.
Thanks Debbie! Central Mexico quite stunning and the weather perfect. Hope you make it there π
I know very little about Mexico – but this place looks lovely. And quiet! I like quiet!
Mexico is fantastic. Close to San Miguel is the town on Guanajuato, one of the prettiest towns you’ll see anywhere. Last year we saw Puebla and Oaxaca, to the south of Mexico City. So much color everywhere, parties and mariachi music, friendly people and great food. Mexico has become one of my favorite countries.
We left San Miguel after two years for the reason you describe and moved to first Cuernavaca, and then Mexico City. It was easier to live in San Miguel. But it wasn’t like Mexico. Training wheels for Mexico. It’s a fantastic place to visit, lots of great shops and restaurants (catering to gringos and rich Chilangos). But I wouldn’t live there again. For some, it’s perfect. No fuss, no muss, no bother. And no Spanish required.
Thanks so much Berverley for taking the time to write your experience. That basically says it all! π
Lovely place!!! I can see why people would want to retire there, having all the modern conveniences and the great weather. My uncle used to live in Mexico City years ago and l got to visit a few times, but l never made it there. Taxco and Cuernavaca were it..great photos!!!!
Thanks Kemkem. I’ve seen photos of Taxco and would like to see it one day. So many interesting places in Mexico that I’m only starting to hear about…lucky for me my mom lives there π
I live here. I even moved away and wrote my own break up letter http://www.thiswaytoparadise.com/san-miguel-its-not-you-its-me/. It was my perspective. I just knew there was somewhere better out there. But, then I missed all the conveniences that are here. It’s an easy life. Perfect weather. An awesome community. Wish I could have met you when you were here!
Hi Val!
Actually I remember reading that post at the time. And I met a few people who felt exactly the same way – and then also came back.
And if I remember correctly, you were moving to Chiang Mai. My mom did the reverse, coming from Chiang Mai to San Miguel. Now you’re both in San Miguel.
Yes, I get it totally and, especially after a year of travel, understand why it is so nice having such a good base where the weather is perfect, the people friendly and the food excellent.
Maybe I get to meet you next time Val π
Frank (bbqboy)